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Happy Wednesday, everyone! Time to take the Dharma Preview Bus out for a spin. We’re in for a ride this week since I’m having a hard time coming to terms with the amount of pronouns in this week’s episode title: He’s Our You. Then again, this is Lost…and with all the dichotomies that have been thrown at us this season, it actually might make sense.


What's that, Rufus Xavier Sarsaparilla? You found a kangaroo???  (First reader to identify this non-Lost-but-still-awesome character in the comments wins a (no) PRIZE!!!)  And…go!

Tonight: He’s Our You
The avid
Lost-watcher in me assumes that the title of this week’s episode is either (1) an actual phrase spoken in the episode, or (2) a phrase that can explain the scenario of the episode. After spending the last few days thinking about it, and talking to some trusted Lost advisors, I’ve come to the conclusion that it must be one faction on the island talking to another faction on the island, attempting to draw comparisons between the two groups. Confused? Okay, think of it this way. By showing the similarities between two people in the different (likely opposing) factions, one could say “he’s our you”.

Confused? I think it will make sense once we start putting names in place of the pronouns.

Let’s start with “our”.
I’ll start by trying to make some sense of what ‘groups’ we could be talking about with the word “our.” We have a lot of factions on this island…all of which have limited/disjointed understanding of each other (hence, it would make sense to draw a similarity like this to find a commonality). Okay, so the groups we know about:

The Dharma Initiative: I’ll start with Dharma because they are currently the “host family” for our time traveling survivors and Sawyer-Juliet-Miles. They probably are getting a lot of questions (Sawyer, at least) from the 1977 survivors about what is going on…perhaps this is an introduction/answer given to one of them. I also think it makes the most sense for a Dharma-ite to say this phrase because of the central role they have played in the last couple episodes. Which Dharma-ite? Hard to say. I think Horace and Sawyer would both be safe bets.

The Others: Another group we know very little about. Perhaps Richard is going to introduce us to their ‘real’ leader (Jacob? Christian?) and use this phrases to parallel who ‘he’ is as compared to another leader on the island (Dharma or otherwise).

1977 Survivors: Jack, Kate, and Hurley have begun their assimilation into the Dharma society. Sayid is in Dharma Jail. They have no idea what is going on. I don’t think this phrase is said by one of them.

2008 Survivors: Sun and Frank just finished up a spooky conversation with Christian Shepherd at the Dharma Processing Station along the waterfront. Who would they even say this to? And who would they be talking about? Honestly, if they run into another ghost-who-can-hold-a-flashlight, I won’t know what to do. I don’t think Sun or Frank says this phrase.

Arija 316 Survivors: Okay, so I’m realizing I don’t know many Arija 316 names other than Ilana (who was Sayid’s plane escort) and Cesar (who was nice to Jack at the airport). Without more information about the character backstories/characteristics, it doesn’t make sense to have one of them say this phrase.

Maggie’s Official Guess: “OUR” refers to Dharma.

And now the “he” and the “you”.
Okay, I put these two together for a reason. Here’s the deal: because the statement compares the two, we can assume that they are similar characters in some form. Physical appearance? No, probably not. But ideologies? Maybe. Past experience? Probably. Mannerisms? Check. Tactics? Yep. I’m thinking of qualities that make “him” “him”.

Come again?

Okay, faithful Dharma Blog reader Micah (holla!) helped me come up with this list of possibilities for the “he” and “you”. What comparisons can you draw between the characters? I’ll give you the list…and would really love to hear your theories in the comments section.

• Sawyer/Jim LaFleur
• Sayid Jarrah
• Ben Linus
• Jack Shepherd
• Richard Alpert
• Pierre Chang
• Horace Goodspeed
• [Stuart] Radzinsky
• John Locke
• Christian Shepherd
• Jacob No-Last-Name
• A character we have not met yet

Here are some real and crazy guesses:

“HE's (Radzinsky) OUR (Dharma's) YOU (Sayid).” -A Dharma member

“HE's (someone) OUR (Dharma’s) YOU (Jack).” -A Dharma member

“HE's (someone) OUR (Other’s) YOU (Locke).” -Richard

“HE's (Horace) OUR (Other’s) YOU (Locke).” -Richard

“HE's (Sawyer) OUR (Dharma’s) YOU (Jack).” -Juliet (??)

“HE's (Jacob) OUR (Other’s) YOU (Christian).” -No clue…

“HE's (Sayid) OUR (Dharma’s) YOU (Ben).” -No clue…

And finally, a really crazy one…

“HE's (Ben) OUR (Dharma’s) YOU (Ben).” [Meaning it is literal. Dharma has a (young) Ben; they are trying to explain it to (old) Ben. …No way, right…??)

Maggie’s Official Guess: This looks to be a Sayid episode (guest star listed as “young Sayid” leads me to this conclusion). With Sayid’s current position on the island (a survivor who Dharma thinks is an Other, our survivors know is one of them, and the Others have no idea who he is…do you follow me?), there seems to be a high probability that someone will try to explain him using this phrase. I’m putting my money on Sayid being either the ‘he’ or the ‘you’.

Guest Stars Tonight
ABC is listing both new and old faces (Welcome back, Roger Linus!) for tonight’s show, including: Doug Hutchison as Horace Goodspeed, Zuleikha Robinson as Ilana, Reiko Aylesworth as Amy, Sterling Beaumon as young Ben, Patrick Fischler as Phil, Eric Lange as Radzinsky, Jon Gries as Roger Linus, William Sanderson as Oldham, Sayed Bedreya as Iraqi father, Xavier Raabe-Manupule as 12-year-old Iraqi boy, Dmitri Boudrine as Ivan, Michael Hardy as Floyd, Joe Toro as bartender, Achilles Gacis as guy in car and Anthony Keyvan as young Sayid.

Looks like we might be getting a flashback, folks. (Sidenote: I hope they play that cool transitional flashback noise!) Now, I feel like I can be honest with you all. When I first heard that tonight’s episode was going to be Sayid-centric and probably flashbackerific, I was kind of disappointed. I mean, there’s so much going on right now between the two island iterations (1977 and 2008)…not to mention, where the heck is Desmond? What is Widmore doing? How does Mrs. Hawking factor in? What does the Ethan-is-Horace-and-Amy's-baby reveal mean for this show?...the last thing I need is a flashback to Sayid's youth to provide predictable parallels to his current predicament on the island. That would be so season 1 of this show, don’t you think?

But the more I thought about it, the more intrigued I became. I mean, it is clear that some major falling out took place between Sayid and Ben during the 2005-2008 time period that we have not been privy to…and also, it would be awesome to find out why he was in hand cuffs on Arija 815. Okay, so maybe a Sayid flashback wouldn’t be so bad. I would like to respectfully withdraw my initial reaction to this episode, thank you very much.

TiVo says…
“Things begin to unravel when one of the survivors goes rogue and takes matters into their own hands -- risking the lives of everyone on the island.”

‘One of the survivors goes rogue’ almost certainly means Sayid, don’t you think? Also, the word ‘rogue’ really fits Sayid’s past life…if anyone knows how to go rogue, it is the time traveling former Iraqi intelligence officer and torturer, right? I suppose the other options would be Jack (maybe he just can take playing second fiddle to Sawyer?) or Daniel Faraday (he is probably still losing his mind…wherever he is…).

So let’s assume that, somehow, Sayid breaks out of his Dharma prison (have you seen the fires on the previews??) after finding out who young –and-creepy Ben is. Let’s assume he is so full of rage (recall they had this major falling out at some point) that he decides to try and kill Ben. Okay…here’s my question: he wouldn't succeed, right? Because we’ve seen that Ben lives until at least 2008. And whatever happened, happened, right? I mean, only Faraday or Desmond can change the past because they are the special ones, right? And my Mom wonders why I can’t sleep at night! Ha!

Even though I’m still confused about how this could work,
my official guess is that Sayid is going rogue tonight. He will decide to take matters into his own hands (Lord knows he’s done it before…) and carry out whatever “mission” he feels brought him back to the Island in 1977 (in the previews, he says “I now know why I was brought back to this island”), even if he ultimately will not (cannot?) succeed.

How now?
What do you think will happen tonight? Who is the roguest (new word!) cast member? Who’s your me? Who’s our you? Am I your you? Are you my we?

Hahahaha. Pronouns
can be fun!

Namaste,
Maggie

P.S.:  IMDB says that guest star William Sanderson (cast as Oldham) is an excellent, prolific, and versatile character actor. And other bloggers are saying "It is about TIME Sanderson got a role on this show." This can only mean good things.

P.P.S.:  Charlie, you're my you.

6 Snarky Comments:

Anonymous said...

Rufus Xavier Sarsaparilla was a character in the lyrics to the pronoun song in Schoolhouse Rock. All those Saturdays in front of the TV finally pay off!

maggie said...

Aloha, Island Girl! YOU ARE CORRECT! Congratulations on knowing this random and awesome piece of information.

Anonymous said...

The first time I heard the title of tonight's episode, the only thing that I could think about was the "re-creation of flight 815" and how it introduced some new characters. I might be thinking too literally on this, but the new members are the new/old recreated characters from the original crash.
Ceasar=Sayid?
Sayid=Kate?
Iliana=the Marshall
something like that. And I think Ben is the one who says this upon reawakening from the oar to the back of the head. To maybe John Locke?
I don't know, just a thought.

el_kin said...

Arrmm.. In one of the sneak peeks, Sawyer says to Sayid "He's our you" referring to a new characters that acts as a torturator.

Anonymous said...

i think locke's involved in tonight's he or you. that's my guess!

worst comment ever, i know.

Anonymous said...

Excuse, I have removed this idea :)