I’ll be honest with you: I came into tonight’s episode naïve about the intensity, significance and possibilities it would reveal.
But freaking WOW. That was some good Lost. I’m emotionally drained, physically tired, mentally confused…but elated and ecstatic all at once. I was extremely impressed with episode’s pace, and amazed at the scope in what seemed like a very short 44 minutes. (Episodes like this make me sad to think that the end of the series is just around the corner.) Also, the number of déjà vu moments were off the chart by the end of the episode (more to come on that).
Okay. I’ll stop with the meaningless banter. Time to dive right in. And….review!
Chasing a Butterfly
We picked up where we left off last week, with Jin’s reunion with Danielle and her crew. This week, though, they had names: Lacombe, Robert, Nadine, Montand. After making some quick assessments about the origin of the numbers transmission (which, I would remind you, took our survivors a few seasons to figure out), they were able to bridge the French-Korean language gap without any trouble and headed for the radio tower. Jin was in the lead and everything seemed to be going so well.
Until Nadine started chasing the butterflies.
At this point, I’d like to step onto a toad stool (I no longer say ‘soapbox’; I say ‘toad stool’) for just one moment and address the highly sexist commentary from the Lost watch party last night. I won’t name names or anything. Heaven forbid I’d throw Charlie, Lincoln, Noah, Jeff, or Ty under the bus. I wouldn’t do that. I wouldn’t just throw their names out onto the blog like that and acknowledge that they made comments that were unbecoming of a Dharma Blog reader…especially when I have it under good authority that each of these boys might be looking for a Valentine and/or Constant during the next few days. That just wouldn’t be fair. But I will say this: Just because stupid Montand said “that’s what happens when you bring women along” doesn’t mean you should follow that up with sexist comments…especially when your host for the evening happens to be the only female in the room. And that’s all I’m going to say.
Turns out Montand was wrong: Nadine wasn’t chasing butterflies. Our old friend, Smokey, appeared and took Nadine to an arguably happier place.
DÉJÀ VU #1: In season 1, Smokey put dead 815 pilot in a tree. Tonight, Smokey put dead Nadine in a tree.
Smokey returns to chase the French posse and the Korean through the jungle, only to grab Montand (clearly Smokey is a feminist and was punishing him) and wrangle him into a hole underneath the Temple. Apparently Smokey is stronger than 4 humans and managed to pull Montand into the hole, leaving behind his left arm (nasty). Montand’s friends decided to follow him down the hole, as he was yelling “I’m hurt! I’m hurt!”. (If my arm ever tears away from my body, I think even I’d have stronger words than “I’m hurt!”.)
DÉJÀ VU #2: In season 1, Smokey tried to pull Locke into a hole similar to what it did with Montand last night.
While I think this scene existed to remind us of Smokey’s power and existence, we also got our first look at the much-discussed Temple. As you will recall, the Temple is where many of the Others headed towards after abandoning New Otherton. Rousseau's baby daddy, Robert (You ARE the father!), clarifies Smokey's role as a “security system,” saying that the monster is specifically there to guard that Temple. But who built the Temple, who made all the hieroglyphics (which, as I recall, match some of the symbols from the Swan?)…and what, pray tell, is it there to worship? Or is it a Dharma Station? Or was it created before Dharma, during the time of the four-toed statue? So many theories, so few answers.
“It stole your soul.”
Jin disappeared from the scene shortly after the men went into the hole after Montand. He ran towards a black pillar of smoke, which led him to Danielle’s beach camp; arguably, only a short amount of time had passed since the Temple scene. After coming upon two bullet-ridden bodies, she heard arguing up the beach and came upon a powerful scene between Danielle and Robert, the father of her child.
Danielle told Robert that the monster “stole his soul” (which might be the only explanation we ever get of the sickness that drew Danielle to take their lives). Whatever was ailing them, it is clear that something WAS wrong with Robert. After all, he tried to kill Danielle, his pregnant wife (?), but thankfully, his gun was out of bullets.
DÉJÀ VU #2: In season 1, Smokey tried to pull Locke into a hole similar to what it did with Montand last night.
While I think this scene existed to remind us of Smokey’s power and existence, we also got our first look at the much-discussed Temple. As you will recall, the Temple is where many of the Others headed towards after abandoning New Otherton. Rousseau's baby daddy, Robert (You ARE the father!), clarifies Smokey's role as a “security system,” saying that the monster is specifically there to guard that Temple. But who built the Temple, who made all the hieroglyphics (which, as I recall, match some of the symbols from the Swan?)…and what, pray tell, is it there to worship? Or is it a Dharma Station? Or was it created before Dharma, during the time of the four-toed statue? So many theories, so few answers.
“It stole your soul.”
Jin disappeared from the scene shortly after the men went into the hole after Montand. He ran towards a black pillar of smoke, which led him to Danielle’s beach camp; arguably, only a short amount of time had passed since the Temple scene. After coming upon two bullet-ridden bodies, she heard arguing up the beach and came upon a powerful scene between Danielle and Robert, the father of her child.
Danielle told Robert that the monster “stole his soul” (which might be the only explanation we ever get of the sickness that drew Danielle to take their lives). Whatever was ailing them, it is clear that something WAS wrong with Robert. After all, he tried to kill Danielle, his pregnant wife (?), but thankfully, his gun was out of bullets.
DÉJÀ VU #3: In season 4, Jack pulled the trigger on John Locke, but there weren’t any bullets in the gun.
But don’t worry: Danielle had bullets. Lots of them. And after Danielle kills her Robert, she turns on Jin…who is Saved by the Bell…err, Saved By the Time Travel. Jin’s touching reunion with Sawyer (it was like Bromance!) that follows is interrupted by a cruel series of time skips that leave nearly everyone with a nosebleed (even Sawyer!) and Charlotte’s mind in a state of pure chaos.
DÉJÀ VU #4: In season 4, a ghostly Claire tells Kate “Don’t you ever bring him [Aaron] back,” which is nearly identical to what Charlotte yells to Jin.
“Turn it up. I love Geronimo Jackson.”
After Locke and company decide to leave Daniel and Charlotte behind (good decision, I thought), things start to go really wacky with Char-Char. Not only does she seem to be mentally flashing between realtime and her childhood, she also recounts a bizarre story to Daniel that throws him for a loop.
Charlotte claims that she lived on the Island before when her parents worked for the DHARMA Initiative. Charlotte said that, one day, she and her mother left the island and returned to England without her father. When she asked her mother about the island, her Mom would claim she made everything up. It wasn’t until she was on the island that she reclaimed an on-island memory from her childhod…a “scary man” told her she had to leave and never come back or she would die. It turns out that man was Daniel Faraday.
All together now: Holy HELL!
So what does this mean for us? Well, Charlie put it into perspective for me. Desmond’s on-island memory of his meeting with Faraday suddenly ‘reappeared’ after Daniel went back in time. In the same way, Charlotte’s memory has reappeared. Huh? Well, it seems to be setting us up for 1970s Daniel (the one who was playing Dharma Worker in the Orchid in the season 5 premiere) finding 1970s Charlotte (who is probably just a wee one) and likely scaring the bejeezers out of her…hoping that future Charlotte would have the memory and not go back to the island. I think this also implies that I was wrong earlier about the timeline of the Temple: Charlotte knew about the Well, which predated the Temple. So, maybe that Temple was created to harness/control Smokey?
WHEW.
But if your mind is too mushy to handle this time travel stuff, think about this simple question and the implications: who are Charlotte’s parents? Lots of people probably went right to Widmore. I, however, am going to throw out the possibility that Horace and Olivia Goodspeed (the Dharma workers that recruited Roger and Ben Linus to come to the island) are Charlotte’s parents. Why? I don’t know…other than I think they sort of, kind of, maybe fit the correct age range to be Charlotte’s parents.
Charlie thinks Charlotte’s Mom is Annie, Ben’s childhood friend. I could go for that…although it does make the scene where Ben shoots Charlotte a little, well, tough to swallow. Would he really shoot the daughter of his long-lost, but not forgotten, love?
But back to Charlotte’s brain dump on Daniel before she dies. In a very short time, Charlotte manages to sputter out a lot of nonsense while she flashes to and from her childhood. I think we can all agree that these statements are absolutely positively clues intended to keep us awake at night and unproductive at work/school:
“Why can’t Daddy come with us?”: Obviously young Charlotte was not told by her Mom why they were leaving the island…and more importantly, why they were leaving Dad behind. The question for me is both why they left the island, and how they left the island?
“You know what my Mom would say about you marrying an American.”: I have no idea what this could mean. Can anyone think of a Lost character we’ve met who married an American? And why that would have any bearing on anything?
“I know more about Ancient Carthage than Hannibal himself.”: Is this the statement of a confident 8 year old who just finished a chapter in her social studies text book? Or was this a flash to PhD student Charlotte, finishing her degree in anthropology? Afterall, Ancient Carthage was located near modern-day Tunisia. Hmmm.
“Turn it up. I love Geronimo Jackson.”: Yes! Geronimo Jackson returns! DÉJÀ VU #5: This artist, whose record was in the Swan hatch, continues to appear and disappear. Oh, how I’ve missed Geronimo. Are we to assume Charlotte spent some time, on-island, in the Swan, listening to Geronimo Jackson?
“I’m not allowed to have chocolate before dinner.”: The first time through, I thought she said “children” instead of chocolate. I was happy to find out I was wrong…because that would have been messed up. But it is still confusing. Anyone have any ideas? Apollo Candy Bar, anyone?
The Passion of Locke
Upon Locke & Co. arrival at the Orchid, another evil time jump moves them to a time and place before the Orchid…but Charlotte’s mindflash memory of a well nearby comes in handy and the gang heads over. The tense scene that follows between Jin and Locke was well written and believable. Of course Jin doesn’t want Sun to come back – who would want their loved one to return to such a place? (Right, Sawyer. Hmm.) Well, I think it is a sign of Jin’s character – he is selfless and always has been selfless. It was a good, strong, consistent character moment.
I know I’m a girl, but I was really touched that Jin asked Locke to keep his fate a secret from Sun. The wedding ring proof just broke my heart…and reminded me of DÉJÀ VU #6: Rose’s extreme attachment to Bernard’s wedding ring in season 1, which he had given to her before 815 took off, as her only remaining link to her husband. Either way, we know that Locke keeps his promise to Jin (Ben filled us in on that later on), which is a testament (I would argue) to Locke’s redeeming qualities.
So, Locke begins to shimmy down the well rope. Unfortunately, a time jump causes him to go crashing to the floor, injuring his leg again (Was that a bone sticking out? Gosh, can the guy get a break?). It is while he is writhing in pain that Christian Shepherd appears…and jaws around the world dropped. He gives Locke a demerit for not following the directions he received in the Cabin word-for-word (Locke was supposed to move the island, not Ben). However, he appears to be convinced that Locke’s current presence can overcome this and correct everything.
So, Locke begins to shimmy down the well rope. Unfortunately, a time jump causes him to go crashing to the floor, injuring his leg again (Was that a bone sticking out? Gosh, can the guy get a break?). It is while he is writhing in pain that Christian Shepherd appears…and jaws around the world dropped. He gives Locke a demerit for not following the directions he received in the Cabin word-for-word (Locke was supposed to move the island, not Ben). However, he appears to be convinced that Locke’s current presence can overcome this and correct everything.
While I could have done without the “Passion of the Locke” scene as a plot device, it makes sense for the character. Locke needed to buy in to the declaration that he was going to have to sacrifice himself for the sake of everyone else. Up to this point, he had only been ‘told’ this fact; he hadn’t believed it himself. And so, I was able to stomach the single tear (cheesy cheesy cheesy) rolling down Locke’s face as he accepted his fate as the sacrificial lamb.
But before he goes sacrificing himself for the future of humanity: Ben broke the freaking donkey wheel and Locke needs to fix it. I am under the impression that the bouncing donkey wheel was causing the timejumps to occur closer and closer together. Faster and closer together each time. Thankfully, it looked like Ben did most of the heavy lifting on the ‘ole donkey wheel…Locke just had to give it a little nudge back into place (arguably finishing the rotation that Ben didn’t complete). And with that…well, we don’t know what happened.
But I think we’re supposed to believe Locke is headed to Los Angeles.
“I didn’t account for traffic.”
In his ever masterful, ever confident, ever freaky way, Ben maintained total control of the Marina (dock 23) scene…even with a Sun gun to his throat. With the 70-hour time window ticking, Ben is anxious to correctly play his cards and get the Oceanic 6 to go with him to Mrs. Hawking. By the end of this episode, he managed to get 2 of the 6 (Jack and Sun) to come with him. With Sayid all “If I ever see you [Jack and Ben] again, it will be unpleasant for everyone”, Kate all “Stay away from me, Jack!”, and Hurley all…in jail, Ben has his work cut out for him.
But back to the action.
In the Reincarnation Van (did you catch that anagram on the side?), Jack makes a very belated/canned/scripted apology to Sun for leaving Jin on the Kahana three years ago. Sun sarcastically (and rightfully) wonders if Jack's trying to talk her out of killing Ben. Jack insists that after the lawyer stunt, he’ll kill Ben himself if this doesn’t work out. Ben then throws what I call a “Daddy needs a break” tantrum, slamming the brakes and all but saying, “I will turn this van right around and go home! Then, there will be no Island for ANYONE! Is that what you want?” Ben tells them that if they knew all the things he'd done over the years to keep them and their friends safe, they would never stop thanking him. Anybody else want to join me in DÉJÀ VU #7: Desmond saving Charlie time after time after time after time… ??
Upon arriving at the church, Ben, Sun, and Jack encounter Desmond (which means Penny and Baby Charlie are nearby, FYI). With one small line “Are you looking for Daniel’s Mom, too?”, we hit the jack pot. After a couple weeks of wild theories (and arguments), it was confirmed that Mrs. Hawking is, in fact, Daniel Faraday’s mother. Though we haven’t received confirmation that Mrs. Hawking is Ellie from 1954 Island, it looks pretty darn certain at this point.
Here’s a question: do you think that Ben’s face suggested he did not know Mrs. Hawking was Faraday’s mother? I believe Ben was stunned to learn that Hawking is Faraday's mother. But rather than storm into the sanctuary and reveal his newfound knowledge, he's holding it close to the fancy new vest he bought…as he does so often (and so well).
Now, I brought this up in Charlie’s preview’s comments…but this whole revelation begs a lot of questions. Widmore's relationship towards Daniel puts Hawking’s relationship with Widmore into question, and if Christian is sending Locke to her, can she really be trusted? Will we learn she lied to Desmond during "Flashes Before Your Eyes" about course correction? AHH! So many questions, so little sleep ahead of me…
Once inside the church, Mrs. Hawking, although disappointed the entire returning crew was not there, declares: “Alright, let’s get started, then.”
And that, my friends, is where we left off. I would argue that this cliffhanger ending was more powerful than even some of our season finales. I was literally on the edge of my seat, boasting a rather large smile, followed by a series of laughs that meant (in order): No way; oh my gosh; are you kidding me (note: a smattering of swear words were included, as well). This is the Lost we love…and live for.
Anybody else giddy about next week’s episode? I can’t believe we actually have to wait a week to find out what the hell Mrs. Hawking is doing in the basement of this cathedral. FREAKY!
Observations and Questions still haunting me in this, the ungodly hour:
(1) Is Widmore trying to eliminate everyone who has ever had a connection to the island in an effort to keep it all to himself?
(2) Was everyone on the freighter former Dharma, except the mercenaries?
(3) Where are Rose/Bernard? (Doesn’t matter; just curious)
(4) This episode is a reminder that sometimes it’s simply not possible for the characters to know as much as we do. Desmond's never so much as laid eyes on Ben that I can recall, nor does he know that Ben blames Widmore for the death of “his” daughter. So, Desmond has no reason to immediately bolt at the sight of Ben…even though I was yelling for him to turn and run.
(5) Charlie touched on this point last week. And it’s not that I want to instigate a huge discussion about this, but...we know Aaron has to come back, but what about Ji Yeon? Does the island, or the rules governing it, consider life as beginning at conception, birth, or what?? (Whoah, Maggie…)
(6) Can Jack and Kate plus eight (hahaha) get back to the island already? Despite the upcoming Mrs. Hawking lecture “Time Traveling back to the Island”, I’m really really bored off the island.
Thanks for bearing with me on this review! It has been a pleasure. Now…discuss!
Namaste,
Maggie
14 Snarky Comments:
Question:
Is Christian Shephard Jacob? I can't remember if it was just Ben and Jake in the cabin with Locke, or Ben, Jake and Chris. Thanks for helping a confused, Lost person.
Barnaby - great question! It was a confusing scene.
We have seen the cabin twice, each time with a different 'character' sitting in the rocking chair. The first time, Ben took Locke in the cabin and we saw a shadowy, older man (for the first time) (presumably Jacob). The second time, Locke went inside alone and Christian Shepherd was sitting in the rocking chair...with a happy-go-lucky maybe-dead-maybe-not Claire sitting near by.
The theory Christian Shepherd IS actually Jacob is definitely out there. I think we've seen clues that hint in both ways. However, this has not been officially confirmed or denied one way or another.
Charlie and I have wondered if Christian isn't Jacob; rather, a descendent of Jacob...like his son or something. We have no basis for this...just something to wonder about.
And don't worry about being confused, Barnaby. We're all confused.
I don't think Christian is Jacob. Remember, when Locke went to the cabin by himself and he saw Christian sitting in the chair, he asked, "Are you Jacob?" Christian responded, "No, but I can speak on his behalf." So unless you believe that Christian can't be trusted (and personally I see no reason not to trust him), Christian is not Jacob.
You both did great jobs switching roles this week!
SO much to say. I agree with Batman, I think that Jacob takes the form of whatever 'comforts' the person/leader or whatever you call them who encounters him. Maybe its similar to a God type interaction, where you never see him directly, maybe Christian is just like the burning bush type of communication for Jacob. I also think Christian represents the science part of the science v. faith struggle in the show. I think that in the end if Jack sees Christian speaking for Jacob he is going to be confronted with a lot of his past decisions, like leaving the island for one.
Also, I tried to post yesterday, but my computer wasn't as ready for Lost as I was, I guess. But I have another weird link, and it could be totally nothing, or something mind bending.
Ok, so Dharma was founded by Hanso/DeGroot. I totally Lost-geeked-out and looked up the last name DeGroot and found something interesting I thought you might like: (From Wickipedia)
Morris Herman DeGroot (June 8, 1931 – November 2, 1989) was an American statistician. Born in Scranton, Pennsylvania, Professor DeGroot graduated from Roosevelt University and earned master's and doctor's degrees from the University of Chicago....
He wrote three books, edited four volumes and authored over one hundred papers. Most of his research was on the theory of rational decision-making under uncertainty...His Optimal Statistical Decisions, published in 1970, is still recognized as one of the great books in the field.
I think Widmore/Hawkings posed as the DeGroots initially and then split after the rebellion. I think Hawking was clearly a Dharma member initially, and is in it for the science. And she hates Ben (Maybe because she still loves Charles?), and Ben didn't know about Faraday.
Just ramblings. But I love it! Next Wednesday can't come soon enough!
How about Christian asking John to tell his son 'Hi' for him off of the island?
I thought it was interesting that he would say such a thing when John has no idea he and Jack are related, but additionally that while Christian takes on the "Jacob" role, he is not really associated with his fatherly duties to Jack.
Wonder if John will ever find out that Jack is the aforementioned son...
(1) Great point, Batman. Christian did say “I can speak on his [Jacob’s] behalf”. I think the theory that Jacob and Christian are the same person doesn’t necessarily rest on them being physically the same person. As I understand it, the position of Jacob is changing and more of a title than an actual person. So, in the scene with Christian, Claire, and Locke, Christian is ‘fulfilling the role’ of Jacob. I don’t know if that makes sense, but that is how I understand it.
(2) Thanks for your feedback, Anonymous (9:44AM)! I am exhausted this morning and have a newfound respect for Charlie (which isn’t to say Charlie already ranks very high on the “Lost Nerds Maggie Respects” List). Great points on Christian – and I think that is really what I was trying to say in response to Batman (your phrasing was much better).
Now, regarding your Hanso/deGroot connection (so glad I’m not the only one who has Lostpedia and Wikipedia bookmarked), I think you are hot on the trail (as they used to say in the Carmen Sandiego game), but we are still missing a few big pieces. Yes, we know that Alvar Hanso, CEO of the Hanso Foundation (and great grandson of Black Rock Captain Magnus Hanso), financed the Dharma Initiative, which was founded by the deGroots. I’m under the assumption that the deGroots were there (or “in it”, if you will) for the science, while Hanso was in it for the money.
The thing about connecting the deGroots/Hanso with Widmore/Hawking is the timeline. Granted, with all this time skipping, anything is possible. However, the Dharma Initiative wasn’t founded until the 1970s (think Marvin Candle). Widmore/Hawking, it appears, were on the island in the 1950s. I’m not saying it isn’t possible that they were there through to the 1970s, but I think the photos we have of the deGroots (check out lostpedia) prove the Widmore/Hawking as the deGroots theory incorrect. But like I said…I could be way off!
As far as the Widmore/Hawking/Ben connection…you can tell from my post that I am still unclear about how everything fits together. Your guess is as good as mine. Mrs. Hawking is haunting my dreams.
I think Widmore/Hawkings posed as the DeGroots initially and then split after the rebellion. I think Hawking was clearly a Dharma member initially, and is in it for the science. And she hates Ben (Maybe because she still loves Charles?), and Ben didn't know about Faraday.
(3) And THANKS for your comments, Anonymous (11:38AM). That is a key question. John did not know that the man in the Cabin was Christian Shepherd, Jack’s father. I absolutely think John will find out Jack’s connection to Christian and feel a sense of validation for the sacrifice he makes. It will positively be a sign for John that he is doing the right thing. As far as how that scene will go down, I think Ben might be the bearer of the news when he goes to visit Locke in LA. After all, the only 815’er who we know DEFINITELY knows the Christian-Jack connection is Sawyer. But come on: Ben knows everything (well, except for Daniel’s-Mom-is-Hawking…argh.). For now, though, I’ll stand by the assumption that Ben will reveal this fact right before Locke dies. Speaking of…HOW is Locke going to die? Do you believe the newspaper obituary that said suicide? Or are you like Sayid, thinking “they made it LOOK like a suicide.” Surely Ben can’t/doesn’t/won’t kill Locke…right?
Wow! So much to think about. I sense a nosebleed coming on.
The more I watch, the more I realize I can't keep up with everything! I forgot that Ben shot Charlotte, I forgot that Jin knew that Charlotte spoke Korean, I forgot about the Daniel-Ellie interaction, I even forgot that Ben intends to kill Penny which is why the moment that Desmond meets up with the O6 at the church is a big deal... The LOST universe expands much too quickly!!!
I've got some questions/thoughts.
First, I want to know more about the Temple. I think there's a link between 1) whatever is in there, 2) the tenacity and faithfulness to the island of the Others, and 3) the "sickness" that caused Danielle to shoot her French cohorts. Something hanppened to the Frenchies who went into the temple. We know that when Jin time-jumped, a relatively short amount of time had passed (the arm, though partially decomposed, was still next to the Temple) and in that time, suddenly Robert knows exactly what the smoke monster's purpose is. So what's the deal with the temple, and why did the Others head there last season?
Second, thanks for posting the rantings of Charlotte. I think these tell more than we realize right now.
"I'm not allowed to have chocolate before dinner." My guess is that this is how a time-traveling Daniel tries to persuade a young Charlotte to talk with him.
Third, regarding Christian/Jacob. I don't think Christian is Jacob. I don't think Jacob is Jacob. I think both are manifestations of the island, guiding its inhabitants to achieve the island's goals. I think this is why Christian wouldn't help Locke get to the wheel. I don't think he's really there.
And thank you, too, for the anagram. I meant to look that one up, because I was sure there was something there.
One possible Christian/Jack/Locke connection (the timeline might be off but so is the show's). So Jeremy Bentham (Locke) goes to visit Jack at home or somewhere. Happens to notice a picture or plaque at the hospital in memorandum of Christian Shepard. Locke comments on the photo and tells Jack "Hi" from Jacob. I mean Christian, his dad.
This comment eats at Jack, and after seeing his father at the hospital, finding out about his sister, Claire. Jack moves down the cycle of prescription drug addiction, and ultimately wanting, no needing to get back to the island.
I mean Christian Shepards coffin was empty in season 1, why can't Lockes be found empty, by Jack, sometime in season 5.
Of course, I was wrong about Charlotte biting the big one. Here's hoping my odds increase.
Joe Smith
Thanks for the helpful answer Maggie. Man this show make you think.
A few more questions:
Have we seen the smoke monster after Desmond turned the failsafe switch (chronologically)? Obviously we have seen it in seasons 3 through 5, but I think some or all were flashbacks. Could the switch have killed it?
Second, what else did the failsafe switch do? We know it blew up the hatch and gave Desmond his time travely flashbacks and visions. Could it have done anything else, or is it related to the donkey wheel?
Thirdly, I would love to see a post about Desmond's timeline. He has been everywhere and it is tough to keep things in place.
Fourthy, If Eloise = Dan's mom, and Ellie was on the island with Widmore, could Widmore be Dan's father? Which would make him Penny's brother and an interesting brother in law relation to Desmond.
Lastly, is John Locke the 3nd greatest TV character ever (after Homer Simpson and George Costanza)?
3nd = 3rd obviously...
Barnaby you magnificent fool, OF COURSE Widmore is Dan's papa. Okay, maybe he's not. But I think he is, as elaborated upon in my theory from the previous post. Sorry about calling you a fool. At least I put "magnificent" in there.
Those are some good failsafe-related questions, I too have wondered what all that did to everything. Ben seemed to look a bit shocked when it happened, and I do believe that it opened up the window for Penny to find the Island via the Arctic listening station. Based on the preview for this week's episode, it looks like we'll learn some more about this "windows" concept. So stay tuned. Good questions to think about though!
Wowowow I must admit I missed your ep preview but just read it and that seems like a tremendous theory. But if she had Daniel in the 50s, then he would look as he currently appears in the 70s/early 80s. So he must be traveling into the future to visit the island and our other Lost friends. Right? And what does he look like in 2004? Is he alive?
wow, i can't believe i got bashed by the dharma blog on my birthday....embarrassing
nice review though
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It seems from his reaction, that Daniel didn't "know" about visiting charlotte in the past so it must happen in a future jump. But now that he knows his warning doesn't work and she dies why would he still warn her in a future jump? Did we just see an alteration in the timeline or did I miss something?
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